Can Politically-Divided Couples Happily Coexist?


Election season can be a difficult time for couples with opposing political views.

Tomorrow is the 2012 presidential election, and both parties are racing to the finish line, packing the final moments of this seemingly never-ending political race with appearances, speeches and requests for votes on November 6.

The tension is rising in many communities as political lawn signs divide neighborhoods and heated conversations replace casual water cooler conversation in the workplace. Even some couples are facing friction when each individual holds opposing political views

“We have our differences and it really becomes apparent in election time. That’s usually when it gears up, when everything comes to the forefront,” said Melissa Reylek-Robinson in a recent CNN.com article. “Election time is probably the worst time for us. We definitely get into some heated debates.”

While political disagreement on core issues could automatically be the end of a relationship, some couples do date and even marry when they have different political views. One psychotherapist also featured in the CNN.com article believes that couples who can coexist with different political views actually create a foundation for a healthy relationship:

“For some people, they do not feel like individuals when they become married, they become one,” psychotherapist Karen Ruskin said. “But that doesn’t mean you have to share one position or one philosophy. It means you take care and look out for the other person as much as yourself. You love that person as much as that person loves you.”

I agree with Ruskin that couples should not feel obligated to see eye-to-eye on every single issue. If a couple disagrees on how government should minimize its debt or reform education, then I think they should hold firm to their views and support the other person despite their opposing views. It’s when couples have differing ideas on core issues that are fundamental to Catholic teaching that I question how they can maintain an equally-yoked and faith-filled marriage.

Different opinions on the sanctity of life?

Opposing views on same-sex marriage?

Conflicting ideas on euthanasia and end-of-life situations?

These questions are more than just issues for political figures to banter about in a public forum. They are deeply complex moral, ethical and social dilemmas that each of us must come to terms with and align ourselves with Catholic teaching. If your significant other is unable to do the same, a tense election season is only a minor issue in light of a future together that may be emotionally draining and spiritually dangerous.

Individuals have every right to bring their own political views to a dating relationship or a marriage, but only with a firm dedication to a common faith can politically-divided couples coexist…and thrive.

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48 Comments

  1. Tessa-694373 November 5, 2012

    If you are Catholic and truly serious about your Faith and the Teachings of the Church….You Can’t be a Liberal and call yourself a true Catholic…they oppose everything Every Catholic believes…worst they are forcing us as Catholics to pay for killing babies-NOW!! Shame on anyone who put that Evil Man in office and you should repent and ask for God’s mercy….God knows what you do in the voting booth.

    • Pat-49075 November 5, 2012

      Well said Tessa. They use that term social justice as the end all to make them feel good and skip the good stuff. We should help our brothers abd sisters but not at the cost of throwing the core issues and teachings of the church out.

    • Mike-642293 November 5, 2012

      Amen to that…I totally.

  2. Jason-862068 November 6, 2012

    I’ve seen it happen where a gun toting NRA, protien shake drinking, clean shaven republican married a large hipped, big bird loving liberal in a smart car. It was ugly to me but they are still together, God only knows how she got past her unshaven chin to have three kids as a nature powered DC labor-eco lawyer for Obama. They actually kissed in front of me… they gave the worst x-mas presents, a dog ASPCA calendar from last year. oh i resented that, it was in spite I take it.

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      PS
      The calendar was a freebie…that you receive when you are a supporter…they must not consider you such a good friend…

  3. Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

    Jason,
    Your married couple friends co-exist in their marriage because they are NOT true practicing Catholics …there is no way they could be and believe in those principles..If you are true to your principles you don’t compromise.

    .

  4. Kwaku-654846 November 6, 2012

    I think the situation is similar to couples of different faiths. Some couples can make that work, others can’t. It depends.

  5. Emily-842270 November 6, 2012

    I am a practicing Catholic…and Surprise! I’m also a Democrat. I voted for Obama and I feel in no way as though I should repent for that. I am fiercly opposed to abortion and all that the Catholic faith entails. I, in fact am a highly moral person and truly live my life by how I believe my Catholic faith in God would want me to live. I simply vote for who I believe fiscally will serve my best interest. I am a mother of two children and I need and rely on services in which the Democratic party supports. I am not ashamed to say that in college I received Financial Aid to help with my higher education. I now receive Aid for Health insurance because my son needs $900 a month of medication for severe asthma (although I have never smoked a day in my life.). I receive Food Benefits and when you cannot afford basic cable then yes, PBS is a good tool to use to help develope your childs educational needs. I have a good education, a good job and no debt. (I have also been engaged to a multi-millionaire and I assure you, farmers can become very wealthy from the Grants they receive from the Federal Government, so please refrain from any comments referring to the lower class and hand-outs.) I understand why some people who make over $250,000 a year vote Republican. However, I find it astounding that in the technology driven world we live in today that we only have two major parties where one supports high income, conservative values while the other supports middle – low income liberal values. The question that we need to ask ourselves and to raise concern over is why there is not an opportunity to vote for a candidate who is supportive of the low to middle income families with conservative beliefs? As I stated before, I fully and fiercly support the beliefs of our church. I am voting for the candidate who will help me to care for my children’s basic needs. I find the above comments and judgements offensive and I honestly wonder if God is in your heart to post such negative things? I choose to live my life by what my Catholic faith has taught and that is to be a loving individual. I will as I should, leave the judging up to God as I hope that you do. God Bless

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE LIBERAL…

    • Dave-912400 November 6, 2012

      Emily, it is a mortal sin to knowingly vote for a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage candidate. Period. By doing so, you enable sinful agendas to continue (regardless of whether or not the candidate wins), thus making you an accessory to murder and sodomy. According to various catechisms and examinations of conscience, there are 9 ways of being an accessory to another’s sin:

      1. By counsel
      2. By command
      3. By consent
      4. By provocation
      5. By praise or flattery
      6. By concealment
      7. By partaking
      8. By silence
      9. By defense of the ill done.

      Voting for candidates like Obama constitutes #3 at the very least. In addition, our Holy Father, before he became pope, wrote the following:

      Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia (Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion, July 2004).

      At the end it said the following:

      A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.

      That latter passage is widely misunderstood. Some people take it to mean that it’s perfectly OK to vote for a pro-abortion politician just so long as you’re not voting for them because of their pro-life stance. Nothing could be further from the truth. The document said that it CAN BE PERMITTED, not that it’s always and everywhere OK to do! In addition, it says it can be permitted for “proportionate reasons.” “Proportionate” is the key word here. What that means is that in order to vote for a pro-abortion politician and not be guilty of sin, the other candidate would have to support an evil which is JUST AS BAD AS OR WORSE than abortion or euthanasia. But in our society today, there currently aren’t any worse evils than abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage, etc. (which are all NON-NEGOTIABLE — meaning we MAY NEVER VOTE FOR CANDIDATES WHO SUPPORT SUCH THINGS).

      I’d like to add that there is NO SUCH THING as a candidate who doesn’t care about the poor, the economy, children’s futures, etc. What they differ on is how to go about doing so. But just because their ideas on how to deal with those goes against how you think they should do so doesn’t automatically mean they’re wrong. Besides, suppose you lived in Germany at the time of Hitler, and your neighbor said to you, “Well, I don’t agree with how this Hitler dude wants to exterminate the Jews, but I think he’ll do great things for the economy and help the poor, so I’m voting for him.” Would you applaud your neighbor for being “open-minded” enough to consider the big picture? Surely not! You’d most likely consider them an idiot at best and a barbarian at worst, and rightly so.

      I hate to tell you, Emily, but if you call yourself pro-life and claim to live by what the Church teaches but then vote for pro-abortion candidates, then you’re not really pro-life, nor are you living by Church teaching or loving others as God has called you to do. Actions speak louder than words. You also said the following: “I find the above comments and judgements offensive and I honestly wonder if God is in your heart to post such negative things? I choose to live my life by what my Catholic faith has taught and that is to be a loving individual. I will as I should, leave the judging up to God as I hope that you do.” Nobody has judged anybody here. We’re not supposed to judge people, of course, but we MUST judge actions — we’re supposed to call right right and wrong wrong. By wrongly accusing others of judging people, you’re accusations of “judging” turn right around on you. Moreover, that remark, plus the following comment you wrote near the beginning of your post — “I am fiercly [sic] opposed to abortion and all that the Catholic faith entails. I, in fact am a highly moral person and truly live my life by how I believe my Catholic faith in God would want me to live” — is quite reminiscent of the self-righteous Pharisees. They prided themselves on being excellent Jews (in their mind), and when Our Lord called them out on their failings, they allowed their pride to blind them. They got angry, and it culminated in His Crucifixion. In the same way, you’re being resistant to correction and feel the need to “prove” to those here (or maybe to yourself) that you’re a faithful Catholic despite voting for murder.

      One more thing — I’ve heard it said that slinging around false accusations of “judgmentalism” when reprimanded is a telltale sign of unconfessed mortal sin. As I said earlier, voting for pro-abortion candidates is gravely sinful, and so is receiving Holy Communion while in the state of mortal sin (sacrilege). I urge you to repent of your support of and votes for Obama, not to mention whatever other pro-abortion candidates you may have voted for over the years. If you have received Holy Communion sacrilegiously as a result of voting for Obama and/or other pro-abortion candidates, you need to confess those too. And of course, you need to stop receiving the Eucharist until you’ve confessed those sins.

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      EMILY YOU ARE A UNWED MOTHER…MY MISTAKE….YOU ARE ONLY CATHOLIC IN NAME ONLY …EXPLAINS ALOT YOU ARE A “CAFETERIA CATHOLIC”

      YOU MIGHT ENJOY AND BE BETTER SUITED FOR MATCH.COM OR SOME OTHER NON FAITH BASE ONLINE SITE

    • Katrina F. November 7, 2012

      You oppose abortion yet voted for the most anti-life pro-abortion president ever?

      • Dave-912400 November 7, 2012

        Anyone who says they’re pro-life but votes for pro-abortion candidate isn’t really pro-life. They’re hypocrites! Simple as that.

    • Joan-351524 November 15, 2012

      Hear hear Emily! As many people who have walk in our shoes of lower income (through no fault of our own efforts) there are just as many who never have and will never truly understand….so they attack. Human nature is to shun what we personally find fiercely uncomfortable. Some people really ought to leave the character judgements to God and God alone. What happened to Christian charity (a.k.a. love)? It is so easy to attack views which are different from ourselves. Online unfortunately makes it so much easier for us to forget ourselves. The venom I have read is atrocious.

      • Dave-912400 November 15, 2012

        And yet you ignore the venom Emily was spouting? You fail to see how Emily was attacking us? Listen, Joan, this is a Catholic site, and people here are going to stand up for Church teaching and living a Catholic life, which also means calling out those who call themselves Catholic but believe and/or act in ways that are at odds with it. Besides, we haven’t judged anybody’s character; we’ve merely judged ACTIONS (something we’re all supposed to do). But by wrongly accusing us of judging PEOPLE, your accusations and those of Emily and others turn right around on yourselves. Also, you have no room to talk about getting upset and attacking; if your conscience were at peace, you wouldn’t feel the need to get upset and attack us. Of course, it’s human nature to at first get angry and defensive when called out on wrongdoing, but then there’s what you do afterward. Seriously thinking about it, considering it, and studying what the Church teaches is what a faithful Catholic does. By contrast, attacking others, judging them, and claiming they’re not being “loving” (while forgetting that sometimes the most loving thing you can do for someone is to slap ‘em upside the head, figuratively speaking) is what a self-righteous hypocrite does (remember the Pharisees?).

    • Tom-919560 November 18, 2012

      I’m not a Democrat, but you are correct that many practicing Catholics are Democrats because the liberal social policies are more in line with the Church’s more liberal stance on social economic issues. However, no one has ever said Jesus was a Democrat (capital D) nor did he ever say charity was to be implemented through government redistribution. Still, it is good that you oppose abortion. I think this issue, however, must outweigh the economic platform of the party you support. Moreover, while I can make the argument that many Catholics are Democrats, I disagree with your statement that the Republicans only have $250K plus income voters. Guys like me, a teacher, believe that unless we help the private sector flourish and create jobs, the government is going to run out of other people’s money to redistribute. Sorry, my friend, but the gravy train cannot last when the economic system has been strangled to death.

  6. Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

    YOU CAN’T BE A TRUE CATHOLIC AND SUPPORT A PRESIDENT WHO USE OUR TAX DOLLARS TO KILL UNBORN BABIES,BECAUSE THE MOTHER CHOOSES NOT TO HAVE THE BABY OR KILLS BABY FOR EMBOYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH , AND GIVES OUR TAX DOLLARS TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO CARRY OUT KILLING BABIES.

    REPUBLICANS ARE NOT AGAINST HELPING FAMILIES IN NEEDS AND SUPPORT THOSE PROGRAMS BUT THE LIBERALS ARE ALL ABOUT GIVING YOU HANDOUTS SO THEY CAN HAVE THE POWER OVER YOU TO HAVE YOU KEEP VOTING FOR THEM

    I WILL PRAY FOR YOUR SOUL EMILY BUT YOU ARE NOT A TRUE AND PRACTICING CATHOLIC YOU CAN’T BE WHEN YOU SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR AN EVIL MAN….

    • Louis-53616 November 15, 2012

      The Hyde amendment was first passed in 1976 and has been a bipartisan rider on EVERY appropriations bill since then. Two things:
      1) Learn some history.
      2) Typing in all caps is rude, unless you’re using it for emphasis on a few words.

  7. Scott-158780 November 6, 2012

    Emily, while your reasoning is understandable, it would seem that your desire to support the well being of you and your child at the cost of many babies and an entire nation’s moral fibre is a bit selfish. But I’m quite sure you don’t understand the overreaching consequences of your actions or you wouldn’t have made that choice. I followed the same short sighted approach when I was your age. The election of Obama dramatically undermined the fight against abortion after we had gained tremendous ground under Bush. But now, as a result of Obama, we have two more liberal Supreme court justices who would never side with us whereas we would have had two conservative judges who would have tipped the scale in our favor. And if Obama is re-elected, there is a high likelihood that there will be more liberal judges and little hope for reversing Roe vs Wade in mine or your lifetime. Additionally, the core of family values will plummet even further with Obama’s strong push for same sex marriage and far far more tax payer funded abortions. One of the first bills he did when he got into office was to strike down a law that prevented our tax money from funding international abortion clinics. And did you know that when Obama was a Senator he voted that botched abortion babies should be set aside and left to die on a table. We have been slowly losing our freedom of religion over time and it is becoming all the more rapid due to people voting for the likes of Obama and socialistic values. You just don’t see it because you are young, but it is very very clear. If he is elected, I promise you, you will feel it and your child whose life you are trying to protect, will most likely live in a much less fortunate world than you can imagine. Far more peoples lives are saved by conservative policies that create jobs than liberal policies that are unsustainable in the long haul. Just look at Europe where unemployment is even higher, an d churches are empty with less than 10% even go to church. There exists no example on Earth where liberal values have been sustained with quality of life for any significant length of time. Liberal policies are not implemented place because care. They are implemented only when liberal politicians are willing to sacrifice the long range well being of the country for votes. We must not fall for these short term fixes at the expense of our future freedom.

  8. Scott-158780 November 6, 2012

    And God Bless you Emily!

  9. Emily-842270 November 6, 2012

    It’s sacriligeous for some of you to pretend that you are God and to judge me. Believe me…I will not burn in hell and I find the presumption not only disgusting, but I also find it crazy. We are part of a Catholic Dating Website and you’re speaking like this!? It is so called “Catholics” like you that give good, decent, TRUE Catholics a bad name. I strongly suggest that all all of you go through a thourough mental health evaluation. I have no doubt that you struggle in your day to day life due to your mental illnesses. God teaches us to be loving and with your offensive remarks and hateful attitude I know TRUE Catholics would offer to counsel you and to put you on the right path to God. Perhaps you should ask yourself….Am I being a good Catholic or Christian!? Because your yelling, accusatory comments are not showing that you are anyone of these in your heart. You have though, showed me just how you are an accessory to murder and it is proven when you have freeley admitted to “funding” abortions with your tax money! Are you “holier” than me and don’t think you’ll suffer the so-called same consequences as me!? No answer, huh? Yep. Also, if “it’s selfish for me to support the well-being of me and my children” then I ask you….Would I be a good Catholic to let my children starve? If I didn’t give them medication or shelter? Would I even be a good Christian? No, I wouldn’t be. In fact, I think it’s truly a bit selfish for all of you to be funding abortions. I pray that you will stop because innocent children are dying! You are murdering them when you so freely handover your money! Tessa, I will pray for you to receive the mental health counseling you need. I’m willing to bet that if you read Diary of A Mad Black Woman then it would begin to show you who you are and you will be able to find a partner in life. I pray that you spend as much time praying for yourself, repenting and educating yourself about the election as you do sitting there in the wee hours of the night posting after everyone’s comments. Dave, I pray that you will stop funding abortion and sodomy. You are truly in the devils grip and I pray that you will come to your senses and stop sodomy. I truly believe that once you get on the right medication that you’ll begin to see how wrong this is. Scott, I will pray for you also. I will not be an accessory to murder as you suggest and kill my children! That suggestion is the sickest thing a mother can hear. I think you will find how to be a man and to take care of your children by talking to other men. I pray that you will not father any children so that they do not suffer the fate that you suggest my children endure. Child abuse is not the answer Scott. So again, I will pray for all of you…I will not check back to read this page (not in a million years), so I hope that you read this and begin your path to becoming a TRUE Catholic, just like me.

    • Dave-912400 November 6, 2012

      Emily, you have succeeded in proving my point. You have no room to talk about love, non-judgmentalism, or being a true Catholic after your HATEFUL, SELF-RIGHTEOUS, and HYPOCRITICAL little diatribe! And of course, no one has judged you except in your own mind; however, you insist on judging those who care enough about you to warn you that you’re putting yourself in danger of hell. You don’t really want to go there, do you? And once again, there’s nothing judgmental about that statement; it’s merely a warning of what you’re putting yourself at risk of as long as you continue to insist on doing things your way instead of God’s way.

    • Dave-912400 November 6, 2012

      I forgot to add — Emily, you make like you’re voting for Obama with a clear conscience, but let’s face it — if your conscience were truly at peace you wouldn’t have gotten so angry.

      • Shannan-733493 November 6, 2012

        Emily, you are not the only one. With their vicious attacks, the mean-spirited types here try to silence those of us who don’t agree with their political stance. It seems to me that the people who write hateful things about those who aren’t voting the same way are coming from a very dark place.

        Peace to all.

        • Dave-912400 November 6, 2012

          Shannan, people like you and Emily are the ones who are truly mean-spirited and hateful. All people like Tessa, Scott, and myself have done is attempt to correct those who insist on endangering their souls by voting for pro-abortion candidates (of whom Obama is one), but when we rebuke y’all (I’m Southern; I say “y’all” all the time), self-righteous ire is the result. Y’all start whining about being persecuted by the big bad Republicans who supposedly think they’re better Catholics than everybody else, all the while insulting, mocking, and judging them. Speaking of dark places, those who vote pro-abortion need to repent or else they might end up in a certain dark place at the end of their lives. No, that is not judgmental; it’s merely the truth, and the truth hurts.

        • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

          POLITICAL STANCE HAS NOTING TO DO WITH IT….IT HAS ALL TO DO WITH WHAT IS MORALLY RIGHT AND KILLING UNBORN BABIES IS NEVER MORALLY RIGHT ESPECIALLY IF YOU A TRUE PRACTICING CATHOLIC!

          • Katrina F. November 7, 2012

            Tessa’s right… it’s not political, it’s moral. Either you think killing unborn babies is ok or you don’t. If you do then your beliefs are in direct contradiction with the faith you profess to believe. You cannot be Catholic and be pro-abortion. Period.

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      WE are NOT judging you -WE are just reminding of God’s Law and the Roman Catholic Teachings…you are such under the left side that all you can say we are judging….talk to your priest or bishop….They would say the same thing…listen to Catholic radio they will say the same thing.
      All I can I say is I pray for your soul becuase when someone knowing votes someone who openly say HE is for abortion which killing of a unborn child than you are committing a grave sin voting for him… and this President is totally for killing of unborn children and sad to say he is proud of that fact too…

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      WE ARE NOT FREELY SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS ON ABORTIONS-WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHICH YOU SAID YOU VOTED FOR AND VOTE THIS EVIL MAN AGAIN WHO IS FORCE US TO DO THIS BY USING OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR ABORTIONS.

      DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR PARISH AND THE POPE THIS BEEN A TOPIC ALL OVER THE COUNTRY….YOU OPEN YOUR HEART AND MIND.

      YOU ARE THE ONE WHO GIVES CATHOLIC A BAD NAME BY YOUR HORRIFIC ACTIONS WHICH IS SUPPORTING A PRESIDENT WHO SUPPORTS ABORTION IN EVERY WAY. POSSIBLE….YOU NEED TO REPENT FOR THIS….PLEASE TALK TO YOUR PRIEST IF YOU REALLY TRULY WANT TO PRACTICE THE TRUE TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      EMILY YOU SPEAK LIKE A TRUE LIBERAL HATER-TWISTING WORDS AND SPREADING LIES-SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
      I WOULD NEVER PAY FOR ANY ABORTION-YOUR PRESIDENT YOU VOTED FOR IS FORCING TAXPAYER TO FUND ABORTION….PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND….OR YOU REALLY THAT EVIL OR JUST STUPID?

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      EMILY YOU ARE ONE HATEFUL MAD WOMAN…I WILL PRAY FOR YOU BECAUSE THE DEVIL IS YOUR HEART….
      ps
      NO I DON’T READ BOOKS OF THAT SORT BUT I’M GUESSING YOU DO…

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      EMILY-ONE FINAL WORD YOU ARE ALREADY AN “ACCESSORY TO MURDER” (BTW-YOUR WORDS NOT MINE) BY THE MER FACT YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA!!

      YES, I AM A VERY INFORM VOTER I WORK IN THE POLITICAL ARENA SO YES I’M VERY INFORM VOTER
      ALSO, I’M SINGLE BY CHOICE I BELIEVE IN BEING MARRIED ONLY ONCE AND FOREVER

      UNLIKE YOU A BITTER DIVORCE SINGLE MOTHER…IF YOUR WORDS ACTIONS ARE ANY INDICATION WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE…IT IS NO WONDER YOU ARE DIVORCE…

    • Tessa-694373 November 6, 2012

      MY BAD EMILY, YOU ARE A UNWED MOTHER …EXPLAINS LOT ABOUT YOU…

      • Jeanne C. November 12, 2012

        Escuse me, but how does being an un-wed mother prove anything? We have all sinned. It isn’t what has happened in the past that counts it’s WHO WE ARE today that counts. I was an un-wed mother once, and I RESENT this comment.

    • Mike M. November 8, 2012

      Emily, good for you. Please join me in prayer for the less informed and judgemental, followers of this site. I think you have spoken well as a Catholic, who follows the main tenents of our faith as laid out in the Apostles Creed. All else is trivia and dogma. As for the Catholics who feel that a strict opposition to a woman’s right to decide is the best way to stop abortion, well how’s that working out for you? Perhaps, another tack might be called for. For the record nobody is “pro-abortion”. What a stupid term.

  10. Simply put, you can’t be a practicing Catholic and vote for a pro-choice candidate. Period. Even if they are golden on every other issue (which, by the way, is never the case), the sanctity of human life is absolutely paramount to all other issues. If that most basic inalienable right to LIFE isn’t guaranteed to the most innocent amoung us, then nothing is sacred, and our country will ultimately not survive.

    • Dave-912400 November 7, 2012

      Amen, Jonathan! It’s a shame that so many Catholics either don’t know that or don’t care. But what hurts the most is seeing Catholics who ought to know better vote pro-abortion (e.g. the ones who go to daily Mass, frequent confession, pray the rosary, watch EWTN, etc.). But it just goes to show that Satan can fool anybody.

  11. Jeanne C. November 12, 2012

    Different opinions on the sanctity of life?
    Opposing views on same-sex marriage?
    Conflicting ideas on euthanasia and end-of-life situations?

    I was young, stupid, naive and totally too trusting once. I ended up marrying someone who is on the opposite side of me on ALL of these things. And the more left-wing society gets, the more left-wing he gets.

    I DO NOT recommend such a relationship. Unless you don’t care about having deep, thoughtful conversations with the one person who is supposed to be the closest to you on this planet. Unless you would prefer to talk about the weather and what sport you child is playing. Unless you enjoy walking on egg-shells all the time. Unless the idea of clandestinely bringing up your children in the faith and instilling in them any kind of morality and respect for life appeals to your “I like extreme sports” side. Unless you don’t mind if sex is empty, void, meaningless, nothing more than physical pleasure and don’t mind missing out on unity of mind and soul or the sacramental side of it. Unless you enjoy avoiding this subject and that subject and a whole bunch more subjects. Unless you are an actor who likes to pretend every second of every minute of every day that you don’t mind, that you don’t care that your marriage isn’t really a marriage and that you will never know that joy in being with someone you think is the most awesome person in the world, that person who has one of the most awesome minds you have ever known, that person who seems to have been made in Heaven just for you. Unless you like to battle depression. Unless Saint Rita is your hero and you really REALLY want to live her life.

    I know. This is what I live, and if I am here, commenting on this whole thing, it is in hopes that my life will have served to at least keeping others from making the same mistake.

    • Jeanne C. November 13, 2012

      Oh, and while I am still at it, marriage with someone who is the opposite of you in everything will never resemble anything like the theology of the body. It will never be that intense soul- sharing, life-giving, mind-melding thing because they don’t want it. And it takes two to create that. So not only will sex be void, empty and meaningless, it may very possibly become something you do only “to keep the other happy.”

  12. Louis-53616 November 15, 2012

    The crazy trolling exhibited in these comments is part and parcel of why I no longer pay for Catholimatch or attempt to associate with many Catholics online. I’ve seen more courtesy given in a Saturday night brawl than I have here. Is it really so hard to go a day without condemning someone to hell over the internet? I’m happily a nerd but I must say, most of you need to switch off the computer and go gain some perspective.

  13. John-916551 November 15, 2012

    The state is God in a socialist country. The church is under great pressure by liberal forces. Jesus was not popular with governing Jews. They condemned people based on their view of the Jewish laws. I too feel strongly opposed to Obama and the evil people backing aka George Soros. What we have to remember be is to not put faith in princes and Kings. They are not the answer. Jesus will take care of you if you ask. That trust in him will bring about change. The money lenders are real enemy and they want us to fight each other. This way they can control us. Just a side note here. Bank bailout was approved by bush. Obama doubled down on it and passed healthcare. The government participated in the largest land grab in recent history and will now control two markets. Housing and health care. Does that sound like what Nazis and Stalinist times to anybody. Lets not argue from a party point of view they represent banks not us. At least the repubs don’t want to take away freedom of religion.

  14. Jeann-850705 November 16, 2012

    We need to pray for politicians to keep all good moral values. All them are the same no matter wheretheybelong to. Are the ones advocate for family values live those values? Let check in their houses. Are they children live moral values? They say one thing when it works for them & do another things. Let fight for moral values in house first and we can take to politics after. I am who I am & no politician can manipulate me. Those whose decisions changes because of some public figures have themselves a problem. Let pray to God to bring us back to where to belong instead of waiting for a politician to make rules for our life.

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